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[foolserrand1985]

I don't care if the concept is mechanically sound in principle, FOAD.

[karl]

I call troll

[RM CYA]

I like his thinking!! He's giving it a go!!

[mat]

why not just use a cylinder?


mat.

[Jermal]

[nicholasj]

why not just use a cylinder?

what do you mean?

[mat]

O2 cylinder:




mat.

[m1ke]

It's a shame ain't it.

[Superbully]

So if i've read this thread correctly, to summarize - if i operate the horn then I will get turbo boost? :scratch:

[Gravy]

Fair play, NicholasJ, it's all do-able. :salut:

The best high flow, low pressure compressors are the rotary type, as fitted to turbochargers and electric superchargers like the Rotrex.

The problem with an Eaton supercharger (as per Jreedy's pic) is that it is being driven all of the time, including when the additional air flow is not required. This is MPG failure territory.
Perhaps you could design an electronic clutch arrangement, such that when you want a bit of extra, you flick a switch and clutch-in the blower. I suspect with this type of system you would need two ECUs though ... one running a standard map and another running supercharged map.

[mjhamilton]

hey.. here's a great idea.. why not use a cylinder of a more potent gas.. let's say nitros oxide (NOS) for example.. has that ever been tried before?? :scratch:


.. or one of these http://www.electricsupercharger.com/ they look more awesome as the following picture

[rossi82]

Omg I'm a genious! Rather than have something that draws electrical power from the engine I'm sure it would be possible to somehow fit a fan in the exhaust pipe that drives another fan that blows air into the engine, winner! Oh hang on....... :scratch:

[Joebrooke]

Fair play, NicholasJ, it's all do-able. :salut:

The best high flow, low pressure compressors are the rotary type, as fitted to turbochargers and electric superchargers like the Rotrex.

The problem with an Eaton supercharger (as per Jreedy's pic) is that it is being driven all of the time, including when the additional air flow is not required. This is MPG failure territory.
Perhaps you could design an electronic clutch arrangement, such that when you want a bit of extra, you flick a switch and clutch-in the blower. I suspect with this type of system you would need two ECUs though ... one running a standard map and another running supercharged map.

Rotrex are belt driven too mate :thumbup:

[tuf]

I call troll aswell, 300psi tyre?

[Gravy]

Fair play, NicholasJ, it's all do-able. :salut:

The best high flow, low pressure compressors are the rotary type, as fitted to turbochargers and electric superchargers like the Rotrex.

Rotrex are belt driven too mate :thumbup:

Eh? ... oh, yeah ... what was I thinking?

[karl]

nice one, Gravy :lovl:

[mat]

hey.. here's a great idea.. why not use a cylinder of a more potent gas.. let's say nitros oxide (NOS) for example.. has that ever been tried before?? :scratch:

stop kidding yourself, an idea like that will never catch on.


mat.

[mjhamilton]

hey.. here's a great idea.. why not use a cylinder of a more potent gas.. let's say nitros oxide (NOS) for example.. has that ever been tried before?? :scratch:

stop kidding yourself, an idea like that will never catch on.


mat.

damn you are right.. I was just dreaming...

[bornlucky1]

I'm going to make this even simpler, today i will be inflating my spare tyre to 100psi and running a hosepipe from the valve, through the car and into my engine intake - i'll let you know how i get on :salut:

but seriously, it will never work and i'll explain the reason. Pressure and flow are not equal. Ever had one of those cheap electric tyre compressors from halfords etc? they (the better ones at least) have a peak of 150psi yet it takes six or seven minutes to blow up a car tyre from flat with one. You go to a garage that fits tyres and use theyre 150psi compressor and it will blow the tyre up in under a minute, this is because although the pressure is the same the air is going through at a much faster speed (flow).
Imagine trying to piss into a pint glass through a garden hose, - now imagine pissing into your glass through a straw, your still pissing at the same pressure but the hose will fill your glass much faster :salut:

An air horn doesnt have anywhere near enough airflow to feed an engine :thumbup:

[Superbully]

I'm going to make this even simpler, today i will be inflating my spare tyre to 100psi and running a hosepipe from the valve, through the car and into my engine intake - i'll let you know how i get on :salut:

but seriously, it will never work and i'll explain the reason. Pressure and flow are not equal. Ever had one of those cheap electric tyre compressors from halfords etc? they (the better ones at least) have a peak of 150psi yet it takes six or seven minutes to blow up a car tyre from flat with one. You go to a garage that fits tyres and use theyre 150psi compressor and it will blow the tyre up in under a minute, this is because although the pressure is the same the air is going through at a much faster speed (flow).
Imagine trying to piss into a pint glass through a garden hose, - now imagine pissing into your glass through a straw, your still pissing at the same pressure but the hose will fill your glass much faster :salut:

An air horn doesnt have anywhere near enough airflow to feed an engine :thumbup:

it would from hornblasters.com surely