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By neal01
#831175
Paul-CTR wrote:No probs scottie. But my gut feeling is that the strut will get in the way of the box. It is quite big. Never know until we check though so you might be lucky.

Neal01> This box is going to benefit most to those who have the OEM airbox/open cone filters. If you already have a coldair box then you won't see a massive gain tbh. If your happy with what you got then there really is no reason to change.
Yeah but the ITG looks really 8) and the icebox is such a pain to take off and put back again if I need to. I think I will wait until other forum users buy it and try it. Looking forward to the next review of the ITG airbox.
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By CCtypeR
#831513
Good write up Paul, :thumbup:

I was just about to order an icebox from the states for my DC5 but the ITG sounds like a good option. 8) Keep us informed on expected production and availabitlity.

chris
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By Paul-CTR
#831606
neal> It does look very 8)

Find myself opening the bonnet and touching the carbon alot :oops: :lol:

CCTypeR> Another interested teg owner... I am going to fit it to a DC5 teg soon to check the fitment. It should just fit straight on but it won't hurt just to make sure.

Will keep everyone informed on avaliability. If your definately interested we might even have a group buy for the first batch.
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By Colinjy
#831649
Paul-CTR wrote: The AEM will not come close tbh tart. ITG will rip that a new ar*ehole.
erm how can you say that ?

considering there both pulling the air in from the same area, not only that the AEM or injen would be better as it's a smooth run to the intake mani compaired to the piper cross ribbed look-a-like cold air feed.

now i can understand you've spend more than one of these other systems cost so generaly you'd think it'd win.
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By Funky
#831690
Colinjy wrote:
Paul-CTR wrote: The AEM will not come close tbh tart. ITG will rip that a new ar*ehole.
erm how can you say that ?

considering there both pulling the air in from the same area, not only that the AEM or injen would be better as it's a smooth run to the intake mani compaired to the piper cross ribbed look-a-like cold air feed.

now i can understand you've spend more than one of these other systems cost so generaly you'd think it'd win.
erm, I kinda agree, with the Ingen type induction kits the air flow doesn't turn more than about 90 degrees but with that kit the air flow is making a 180 degree turn. I'm no engineer but thats gotta affect the rate of air flow :?

Also a good point about that ribbed tubing slowing down the air flow aswell.
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By Paul-CTR
#831759
Sorry that was a bit too much on my part. It won't rip it a new a*sehole so to speak. Got a bit too excited, my bad :oops:

I think I need to get someone from ITG to explain a few things because some of you are asking qs which I don't know the answer for. The ITG kits have always used that ribbed part as far as i know, its whats known as a 'donkey dick' as Stuart calls it and they have used that hose for most of their kits with no ill effect on results.

ITG have been making quality kits for years now, I think they have pretty much sussed the secrets of it. Every kit they have made has given a gain. I think they got 15whp out of a Focus Zetec a while back and even on the Toyota T-sport they got over 10whp gain. They are currently doing one for a Seat Leon Cupra R and again preliminary results have been excellent.
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By DaveC118
#831768
Personaly i am very interested, need to check and see how much my insurance will rip me off.
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By Funky
#831861
Paul-CTR wrote:I think I need to get someone from ITG to explain a few things because some of you are asking qs which I don't know the answer for.
That would be grate matey, no disrespect to you cos you have obviously tried hard to answer all our questions etc... I am interested in the kit as I'm thinking of a new induction kit (again :roll: lol) but as the price is at the higher end of the scale I'm sure all prospective buyers will be scrutinising/investigating (spelling?) as much as possible.
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By Paul-CTR
#832562
scousefella is coming round my place soon. I am going to fit on his car so that he will give us his opinion on things.
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By HASNIC
#832570
Paul-CTR wrote:scousefella is coming round my place soon. I am going to fit on his car so that he will give us his opinion on things.
Now finally, here is the chance to test all kits together!

Fair play on Paul and ITG on having the balls to offer this test up, not behind closed doors but with forum members free to come along :wink:

EDIT, my response was to a vs test of all the kits Paul!

You edited to fast :lol:
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By Paul-CTR
#832624
Shhhh HASNIC.... :wink:
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By Paul-CTR
#832697
ITG vs All dyno day. This is it boys. Read on the main civic type r section.
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By Paul-CTR
#832719
I just phoned Stuart,

Group Buy is on!!!

Price for 10 buyers is £299+VAT

This would be done through Duncan at Tokyo Express. So put your name down now for those who are seriously interested I understand their are a few already who definitely want in.

Can all those ppl please send me an email at:

[email protected]

to put your name down on the list.

10 ppl only!
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By Stud Munky
#832972
Hi guys,

As you may be aware I work for ITG - I'm not here to big up our product or diss any of the other kits on the market, so if you have any questions please feel free to pm me or e-mail me at [email protected]

Remember I'm at work at the moment so if I dont get straight back to you its probably cause I'm sourcing the bits for kits :D
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By Paul-CTR
#833070
Thats great Adam :D
By Jocelyn Hills
#833169
Stud Munky wrote:Hi guys,

As you may be aware I work for ITG - I'm not here to big up our product or diss any of the other kits on the market, so if you have any questions please feel free to pm me or e-mail me at [email protected]

Remember I'm at work at the moment so if I dont get straight back to you its probably cause I'm sourcing the bits for kits :D
Let us know in the forum as I'm sure you can't be arsed replying to 100 questions mate.

If you give the general idea about the kit and answer most peoples concernes that have been brought up I should think that will do nicely!

Chris.
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By Stud Munky
#833255
OK I'll go back through all the messages and dig out some useful points, dont worry about sending me e-mails though - this is what I get paid for!!
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By Stud Munky
#833377
OK guys, I have to say we are not a BMC clone!! WE were the first people to start marketing closed airboxes - all the others have stemmed from us. The box we have designed for the CTR is a revision of the original AB80 design which we developed for the 1998 Honda National Saloon Car's (class B touring cars) and which was later used on many other cars on the grid.

We later developed the smaller AB65 which was first used on the Series 1 lotus elises and ended up on the Civic Vti and DC2 Integra. The design of these airboxes is different to most on the market, most notably the trumpet shape on the inlet. This helps remove turbulence within the airbox and also helps wrap the air around the filter - air pressure is also recovered from air velocity meaning there is always a full volume of air availabe for the engine to draw from. This leads to a much crisper throttle response, especially when feathering the throttle.

The comments about the cold air duct looking tatty is well deserved, the one fitted on Pauls car was the original that I formed using my hands, a big hammer and a steel bar, we are having tooling made to make this tidier - someone mentioned about making this rigid, the airbox is mounted directly onto the engine and gearbox (with a 3mm thick ally plate) so we have to have a flexible pipe here. The comments about the convaluted hose not flowing well wont really apply in this application, the ducting used is 102mm bore which will flow more air than you are ever likely to need from these engines and any turbulence generated here will be sorted out by the airbox anyway.

We are collecting air from the hole in the inner wing by the battery, during the initial developement of the kit we fitted a pyrometer into the inlet hose by the throttle body so we could check inlet teperatures whilst out on the road. With the standard airbox (collecting air from behind the grille) we found that the intake temperature was 10 degrees over ambient, with an AB65 lashed on with the nose pointing at this hole (not even sealed over the hole) we measured 1 degree above ambient. An easy gain in power straight away, why Honda don't collect air from there is a mystery to me!!

The tests we carried out on Saturday were as fair as we could achieve using Pauls car, it wasn't until two days before the test that I realised Paul had modified his standard box - if we could have tested the car with a bog standard box we would. The graphs we are going to post on the website will be with the 95 RON fuel, the Optimax test was more Hamish trying to prove a point as opposed to jacking up our figures, we always try to be as fair as possible and only show results we know will be repeatable. As Paul has made you aware, we will be happy to go head to head with any other kit on the market, and to satisfy you people with the Gruppe M kits we can run ALL the tests with the bonnet closed.

If anyone has anything else to ask, feel free, thats why I'm here. :)
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By scousefella
#833574
Paul-CTR wrote:scousefella is coming round my place soon. I am going to fit on his car so that he will give us his opinion on things.
Paul, Thurs or Fri eve will be fine for me. :D

How about yourself?
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By Trung
#834009
Adam
I'm interested to know why do ITG use foam material over other types of filtration material such as cotton?
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