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[kingofdbrits]

Good to hear another Type R is coming, but it will need alot more power to compete against the other hot hatchs. Something around the 250bhp would be nice

Pffft, if it's not 300bhp they shouldn't bother

orly? :scratch:

New VXR 270 odd
New Megane 265

Why do 300bhp?

If they could make it 230-240 and just lighter :think:

I was thinking the same Dan i havnt heard any other hot hatchs at 300bhp either

The 250bhp FST is the 'warm' offering from ford and the hot Mk3 FRS is remoured to be 350bhp, 135i is 320bhp, Mk3 MPS is rumoured to be 300-320bhp so anything less than 250bhp from Honda will be a big fail. Even a 2.0 derv ford offer has more power than a CTR so if honda can't even get slightly close to it's rivals they might as well not bother and put their efforts into another hybrid as it'll just get mauled by everything.

[kingofdbrits]

I reckon 11 pages then locked.

[bluntcap]

I reckon 11 pages then locked.

less if anyone mentions the FN2 again in a disrespectful manor......if the Ep3 is slated i say 25+ pages, most of the commenst will be Stu agreeing and the Dezi (the bitch) talking mert.

[EvoStu]

Would mean a fair leap, not only in performance but in build quality and no doubt price, which will please people who already think the new civic is not exactly cheap!

What car in that sector is cheap though? None. Even the basic Dis'Astra is over £17K for a lowly 1.4 engined no equipment beast.

[dutch]

Better have 5 fcking doors and at least 350 horse powerz.

[yella]

The 250bhp FST is the 'warm' offering from ford and the hot Mk3 FRS is remoured to be 350bhp, 135i is 320bhp, Mk3 MPS is rumoured to be 300-320bhp so anything less than 250bhp from Honda will be a big fail. Even a 2.0 derv ford offer has more power than a CTR so if honda can't even get slightly close to it's rivals they might as well not bother and put their efforts into another hybrid as it'll just get mauled by everything.

because its all about the power isn't it. always.

Power corrupts and its usually the same in hot hatches.

[Stevo M81]

Good to hear another Type R is coming, but it will need alot more power to compete against the other hot hatchs. Something around the 250bhp would be nice

Pffft, if it's not 300bhp they shouldn't bother

orly? :scratch:

New VXR 270 odd
New Megane 265

Why do 300bhp?

If they could make it 230-240 and just lighter :think:

I was thinking the same Dan i havnt heard any other hot hatchs at 300bhp either

The 250bhp FST is the 'warm' offering from ford and the hot Mk3 FRS is remoured to be 350bhp, 135i is 320bhp, Mk3 MPS is rumoured to be 300-320bhp so anything less than 250bhp from Honda will be a big fail. Even a 2.0 derv ford offer has more power than a CTR so if honda can't even get slightly close to it's rivals they might as well not bother and put their efforts into another hybrid as it'll just get mauled by everything.

250bhp i would agree has to be the least it will get to make me want it

[Jules]

RS3, 1M?

RS3 - £40K.
M135i - £29K

I know which I'd rather have.

The RS3.

This is the competitor for it anyway, same price

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/modelrange/0 ... BN,00.html

You're a f*cking idiot.

2 door coupe a rival for a 5 door hatchback?

The 5 door M135i is the RS3's rival. Plus its quicker and has better handling according to the reviews out there right now. The M135i might look odd, but it does its job far more effectively. And if you mention wet weather standing starts etc and snow, you deserve to burn in the fiery depths of satan arsehole.

I prefer quattro, more versatile.

[m1ke]

1.8 VTEC Turbo with 250bhp 4 doors FULLY loaded with toys and I'll have one.

[EvoStu]

I prefer quattro, more versatile.

:tosser:

[karl]

rwd ftw

[Stevo M81]

1.8 VTEC Turbo with 250bhp 4 doors FULLY loaded with toys and I'll have one.

+1 [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

[Jules]

I prefer quattro, more versatile.

:tosser:

Seeing if your rage cloud was multi thread or not

[dandemoraliser]

Would mean a fair leap, not only in performance but in build quality and no doubt price, which will please people who already think the new civic is not exactly cheap!

What car in that sector is cheap though? None. Even the basic Dis'Astra is over £17K for a lowly 1.4 engined no equipment beast.

Stu, the diesel 2.2 is well, no other way to say it. Expensive.

It's VW money.

[smartie]

Are Renault the only company left producing a hot hatch, all the others are getting on for 30k, not really hot hatches any more.

[karl]

Honda lost the plot with the FN2 and the trend is continuing with this travesty. They need to revisit their "because race car" days asap.

[dandemoraliser]

Are Renault the only company left producing a hot hatch, all the others are getting on for 30k, not really hot hatches any more.

well as said above, you have your twingo's and C2's and super minis. and now hot hatches cover Mini JCW to Focus RS's and RS3's :scratch:

[kingofdbrits]

The 250bhp FST is the 'warm' offering from ford and the hot Mk3 FRS is remoured to be 350bhp, 135i is 320bhp, Mk3 MPS is rumoured to be 300-320bhp so anything less than 250bhp from Honda will be a big fail. Even a 2.0 derv ford offer has more power than a CTR so if honda can't even get slightly close to it's rivals they might as well not bother and put their efforts into another hybrid as it'll just get mauled by everything.

because its all about the power isn't it. always.

Power corrupts and its usually the same in hot hatches.

Yes, cars are getting fat on elf & safety and the Type R is supposed the hottest car Honda can produce for £25k so if they can't engineer the engine to be atleast 25% less powerful than it's rivals then i would say, don't bother.

It doesn't have to get into a power war but it needs enough to atleast keep in touch and not get embarrassed by a derv hatch.

[kingofdbrits]

Are Renault the only company left producing a hot hatch, all the others are getting on for 30k, not really hot hatches any more.

Focus ST, 250 bhp with a £21k list price, could well get discounted below £20k, that's cheaper than an FN2 2 years ago.

[EvoStu]

Would mean a fair leap, not only in performance but in build quality and no doubt price, which will please people who already think the new civic is not exactly cheap!

What car in that sector is cheap though? None. Even the basic Dis'Astra is over £17K for a lowly 1.4 engined no equipment beast.

Stu, the diesel 2.2 is well, no other way to say it. Expensive.

It's VW money.

Only with all the options mate. The £27K was with literally everything you could add on which is the EX GT and those will be few and far between or demo's which will then be sold for way below that. You'd have to be mental to pay £27K for a diesel Civic.

Most people will buy the ES and that's £21K or the ES-T at £22K.