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[Jules]

Apart from the noise nothing else attracts me to them. They look like a normal golf and don't go that well either for a 3.2

How should a 3.2 go? 0-60 in 5.7 seconds in a fat child without a father of a hatch is pretty good. They are not made for racing though, so it doesnt really matter.

Like an m3.

You ever seen the running cost differences of an M3 compared to an R32? Stupid comment is stupid :thumbup:

[Webby_85]

You never mentioned runnings cost's. You said how do you expect a 3.2 to go.

Epic fail is epic fail [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

[Webby_85]

I can't imagine running cost's to differ than much either?

[bornlucky1]

Apart from the noise nothing else attracts me to them. They look like a normal golf and don't go that well either for a 3.2

How should a 3.2 go? 0-60 in 5.7 seconds in a fat child without a father of a hatch is pretty good. They are not made for racing though, so it doesnt really matter.

Like an m3.

You ever seen the running cost differences of an M3 compared to an R32? Stupid comment is stupid :thumbup:

day to day about the same, the m3 will probably get better mpg too.

The only thing with an m3 is when you need to buy an m3 only part its expensive (i.e a part not shared with the rest of the model range)
Front discs for instance are something like £300 a pair
And if you get it serviced at bmw then its a fortune, thankfully any descent indy can do the normal services and any specialist can do the vanos filters etc.

[Jules]

You never mentioned runnings cost's. You said how do you expect a 3.2 to go.

Epic fail is epic fail [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

Point - missed = self fail

If you want a 3.2 to go like and M3 then you get the running costs that go with it. You cant compare the two when one is highly tuned, the other is a big engined hot hatch. Its like comparing a CTR to an elise with a 2.0 engine it.

The running costs are exponentially more in the M3

Apart from the noise nothing else attracts me to them. They look like a normal golf and don't go that well either for a 3.2

How should a 3.2 go? 0-60 in 5.7 seconds in a fat child without a father of a hatch is pretty good. They are not made for racing though, so it doesnt really matter.

Like an m3.

You ever seen the running cost differences of an M3 compared to an R32? Stupid comment is stupid :thumbup:

day to day about the same, the m3 will probably get better mpg too.

The only thing with an m3 is when you need to buy an m3 only part its expensive (i.e a part not shared with the rest of the model range)
Front discs for instance are something like £300 a pair
And if you get it serviced at bmw then its a fortune, thankfully any descent indy can do the normal services and any specialist can do the vanos filters etc.

You're wrong, i owned an R32 and looked at buying an M3

[bornlucky1]

You're wrong, i owned an R32 and looked at buying an M3

Looked at buying one? I've owned two e36 m3's , my dad still has one as a track car and an e46 as his everyday car.
Which parts wrong?

[trancem]

:shouldbeinteresting:

[Jules]

You're wrong, i owned an R32 and looked at buying an M3

Looked at buying one? I've owned two e36 m3's , my dad still has one as a track car and an e46 as his everyday car.
Which parts wrong?

The bit about the e36, the bit about a car your dad runs (not you) and the bit where you have never owned an R32 :thumbup:

[bornlucky1]

You're wrong, i owned an R32 and looked at buying an M3

Looked at buying one? I've owned two e36 m3's , my dad still has one as a track car and an e46 as his everyday car.
Which parts wrong?

The bit about the e36, the bit about a car your dad runs (not you) and the bit where you have never owned an R32 :thumbup:

A bit about running an e36 with the s52 engine, thats pretty much the same engine as fitted to the e46 - s54 is just an evolution of the same engine (the engine service costs at bmw are identical), the e46 my dad owns i have toured the highlands in - and you're right, i havent owned an r32.
Have you owned or spent any length of time in an m3 before passing judgement on running costs?

[eatthis]

You never mentioned runnings cost's. You said how do you expect a 3.2 to go.

Epic fail is epic fail [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

if you expect every 3.2l motor to go like an m3 then you have unrealiistic expectations

[Jules]

You're wrong, i owned an R32 and looked at buying an M3

Looked at buying one? I've owned two e36 m3's , my dad still has one as a track car and an e46 as his everyday car.
Which parts wrong?

The bit about the e36, the bit about a car your dad runs (not you) and the bit where you have never owned an R32 :thumbup:

A bit about running an e36 with the s52 engine, thats pretty much the same engine as fitted to the e46 - s54 is just an evolution of the same engine (the engine service costs at bmw are identical), the e46 my dad owns i have toured the highlands in - and you're right, i havent owned an r32.
Have you owned or spent any length of time in an m3 before passing judgement on running costs?

Yep, plenty. Also spent a long time researching running costs before i bought the R32 and compared them. The M3 was silly amounts more a year.

Lol at the 'only an evolution' bit. My engine is used in various other cars and mine is more to run - because it is in a higher tune. Why you taking over the fail anyway?

[bornlucky1]

Lol at the 'only an evolution' bit. My engine is used in various other cars and mine is more to run - because it is in a higher tune. Why you taking over the fail anyway?

please explain why this engine being 19hp more through having minor tweaks is going to make it significantly more expensive to run? as thats what we are talking about, not what cars what engines were fitted to.

I'm just pointing out that i have real world experiance of running two cars that are VERY similar (e36/e46) and i asked you to explain why its is sooooo much less expensive to run an R32 on a day to day basis with the same size of engine - a question which you have so far avoided?

[bornlucky1]

Oh and for the record, on last years trip to the 'ring we managed 32mpg at a steady 80mph, not too shabby really.

[bornlucky1]

Also for the record jules, when asked what a 3.2 litre engine should go like webby 83 just said 'like an m3', not e46 or e36, just m3, so me having owned two 3.2 e36 m3's i think i have the right to comment.

[m1ke]

Good god, does it even matter?

[bornlucky1]

Good god, does it even matter?

of course it does, this is the internets, and im bored at work [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

[eatthis]

Good god, does it even matter?

of course it does, this is the internets, and im bored at work [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

youre also good at arguing even when youre wrong

the m3 motor is 1 of the best and most focused/tuned 3.2l motors ever made. by that deffinition its much better than average

[bornlucky1]

Good god, does it even matter?

of course it does, this is the internets, and im bored at work [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

youre also good at arguing even when youre wrong

the m3 motor is 1 of the best and most focused/tuned 3.2l motors ever made. by that deffinition its much better than average

I know its a great engine, but my point is that its not any more expensive to run every day than any other 3.2 litre, r32 or whatever.

[eatthis]

Good god, does it even matter?

of course it does, this is the internets, and im bored at work [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

youre also good at arguing even when youre wrong

the m3 motor is 1 of the best and most focused/tuned 3.2l motors ever made. by that deffinition its much better than average

I know its a great engine, but my point is that its not any more expensive to run every day than any other 3.2 litre, r32 or whatever.

did you include innevitable repairs in that?

[Jules]

Do an insurance quote on both and get back to me, then have a look at the servicing and parts and get back to me, lets say the cost of a year (most people own a car for at least that long)

If you still think an M3 costs the same as an R32 to run you are deluded!

I made a profit on my R32, so it ended up only costing me in fuel as well.